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He’s Just Not That Into You: Trump, Intel, and the American Presidency

January 5, 2017

One thing is clear about President-elect Donald Trump: He is skeptical of the U.S. intelligence community. With the aid of a bottle of bourbon, War on the Rocks assembled a top-notch group of experts to talk about what Trump means for the intelligence community. Our guests in this episode included Carmen Medina – a 32-year veteran of the CIA; David Priess – author of The President’s Book of Secrets and a CIA veteran; Mark Stout – a WOTR senior editor, program director at Johns Hopkins, and a veteran of the CIA and the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research; and Mark Zaid – a prominent national security attorney and the head of the James Madison Project. As always, Ryan Evans hosted.

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Produced: Tré Hester

Image: Gage Skidmore

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2 thoughts on “He’s Just Not That Into You: Trump, Intel, and the American Presidency

  1. Great podcast! The historical insight into what is happening was fantastic.

    I do want to say that your advice to a new member is quite telling. Two responses basically saying ‘keep your bag packed’ – nothing has happened yet, although Trump could shut it down whenever, so hold tight – with the implication that you could be screwed at any moment. One response saying ‘please just don’t go Snowden on us’. A complete lack of trust first off, second an acknowledgement that Snowden ruined people’s chances at whistleblowing in a meaningful way.

    Then you had the interesting comment about how the 5 or 10-year man wasn’t quitting, it was only the people with freedom to leave like new hires and retirees. Fantastic. Good to know that the people who can’t do anything else are still staying on, and will probably do anything that the President asks for as they have no other options. Order me up some WMDs in Baghdad, or we’ll Snowden your ass for whistleblowing. Sounds like we’re in great shape gentlemen.

    Like I said the historical analysis was great, it’s just the present-day stuff that is a bit disappointing.