Episode Notes:

Afshon talks with Sanam Vakil, director of the Middle East and North Africa Program at Chatham House, about the impacts of the war with Iran on the Gulf Cooperation Council states and how they're responding. Sanam and Afshon consider how the states are approaching their Iran problem, their U.S. problem, and their Yemen problem — and whether the Mecca defense pact will help Saudi Arabia respond to attacks from the Houthis.

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