Three talented scholars join Ryan in this episode to tackle questions about the future of the international order. Conversations about this topic can often be insufferably dry, but this one definitely isn’t — and not just because of the adult beverages being imbibed as the episode unfolded. Join Mira Rapp-Hooper, Rebecca Friedman Lissner, and Stephen Wertheim for a meaty, fascinating, and historically informed jam session on the future of U.S. power and influence.
