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Rethinking U.S. Low-Yield Nuclear Capabilities

Thinking the Unthinkable with Ankit Panda
Paul Amato and Ankit Panda
July 14, 2026

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Episode Notes:

In this episode, Ankit talks with Paul Amato, who spent years directing nuclear deterrence policy at the Office of the Secretary of Defense and worked on the 2018 and 2022 Nuclear Posture Reviews. Paul argues the deterrence gap is real and explains the thinking behind America's move toward low-yield capabilities. During this conversation, Paul pushes back on some of the loudest criticisms and offers a candid read on where the current debate is heading, including topics discussed in his recent article for War on the Rocks.

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