Episode Notes:

The world that Iranian leaders knew died in the fires with former Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on the first day of the war in February, Cole Bucy wrote in "Tehran Is a Different Beast Now." Kerry talks with Cole, a former CIA analyst, about how that moment shifted Iran's approach and why its leaders now have little reason to play it safe. They also discuss the importance of understanding how adversaries actually think rather than how we want to believe they do — and how that could help Washington better achieve some of its objectives.

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