Episode Notes:

On June 22, U.S. and Saudi officials signed an agreement for civilian nuclear cooperation. While President Donald Trump's demand that Saudi Arabia normalize relations with Israel as part of the deal has thrown its status into uncertainty, the agreement still raises crucial questions about nuclear commerce, nuclear non-proliferation, and diplomatic negotiations. Kerry talks with experienced diplomat Richard Nephew about his recent article on the U.S.-Saudi deal. They discuss how it diverges from previous U.S. approaches to nuclear cooperation, what diplomatic and technical innovations might be useful, and the challenge of balancing non-proliferation with the need to remain in the conversation about nuclear commerce.

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