Episode Notes:

In the war with Iran, Arab Gulf states have faced the problem of using expensive defenses with limited supply against easily produced, inexpensive drones and missiles. In "Fences Not F-35s: Drone Attacks and the Illogic of Gulf Procurement," David Roberts explains why the Gulf states need a different approach to defense procurement. In this episode, Kerry talks with David about Gulf states' over-reliance on sophisticated platforms from foreign suppliers and his suggestions for a layered defense architecture that would be better suited to Gulf state needs.

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