Episode Notes:

A few days before the five-year anniversary of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and the 25th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Kerry talks with Jonathan Schroden, who wrote “What Have We Learned from the 9/11 Wars? Not Nearly Enough.” They discuss lessons that Jonathan identifies from the post-9/11 period, particularly from the war in Afghanistan. They consider why the United States has not learned those lessons and the implications for conflict today.

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