Episode Notes:

John Quinn has years of experience working as a doctor in Ukraine. In his June 18 article, he drew on that background to identify crucial lessons that NATO and others should learn from combat medicine in Ukraine. Kerry talks with John about how about what lessons Ukraine's experience offers, the major challenges for combat medicine in the war, Russian targeting of health workers and infrastructure, the importance of medical augmentation, and the war's broader impact on the country's healthcare system.

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