Episode Notes:

On this episode of The Insider, Aaron sat down with Trevor “Mrs.” Phillips-Levine, a U.S. naval aviator and a special operations joint terminal attack controller instructor and Andrew “Kramer” Tenbusch, an F/A-18F Forward Air Controller (Airborne) and Halsey Alfa research fellow at the U.S. Naval War College.

The conversation explored in-depth the article, "For The Sake of Ceremony: Should the U.S. Navy Continue its Airborne Forward Air Controller Program?," which was published on March 20. As a companion piece for the episode, please also read "The Strike Fighter Time Management Problem," by Stephen Walsh. Stephen is an active U.S. Navy F/A-18F weapons systems officer.

The Insider is a weekly members-only podcast, featuring War on the Rocks authors discussing in-depth a featured article, and why it matters for national security.