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In this episode of Horns of a Dilemma, Aaron O’Connell, associate professor of U.S. military history at the University of Texas at Austin, sits down with Charles Edel, senior fellow at the United States Studies Centre, to discuss his new book co-written with Hal Brands, The Lessons of Tragedy: Statecraft and World Order. This talk took place at the University of Texas at Austin and was sponsored by the Clements Center.