When the world's at stake,
go beyond the headlines.

National security. For insiders. By insiders.

National security. For insiders. By insiders.

Join War on the Rocks and gain access to content trusted by policymakers, military leaders, and strategic thinkers worldwide.

Podcast: Talking COIN with the folks from the Army Irregular Warfare Center

July 29, 2013
Podcast: Talking COIN with the folks from the Army Irregular Warfare Center
Podcast: Talking COIN with the folks from the Army Irregular Warfare Center

Podcast: Talking COIN with the folks from the Army Irregular Warfare Center

Ryan Evans
July 29, 2013

I recently sat down with Lieutenant Colonel Brian A. Payne and David Kasten of the U.S. Army Irregular Warfare Center (AIWC) at the Jefferson Hotel bar here in Washington, DC.  This is part one of that conversation.  Brian is the Director of AWIC and David is its Chief of Interagency Coordination.

Our guests show that irregular warfare was a dominant feature of American wars long before 9/11. It was a really fascinating conversation full of thoughtful analysis and war stories – over drinks of course. We hear everything from Brian’s tactical response to a village band in Haiti to David not joining the French Foreign Legion and becoming a sniper instead.

Listen!

Needless to say, none of the views expressed by Brian and David represent the opinions of the U.S. Army, Department of Defense, or any part of the U.S. government.

Warcast
Get the Briefing from Those Who've Been There
Subscribe for sharp analysis and grounded insights from warriors, diplomats, and scholars.